GRAMMAR DETAIL
たら〜たで
Indicates that whichever condition holds, that condition brings its own separate issues or circumstances.
Examples
都会は便利だが、便利だったら便利だったで別の悩みがある。
Cities are convenient, but when life is convenient, that brings its own set of concerns.
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忙しかったら忙しかったで、休む時間を作らなければならない。
If you are busy, then you need to make time to rest despite being busy.
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暇だったら暇だったで、何をすればよいか迷う。
If you have too much free time, then you face the separate problem of wondering what to do.
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Study notes
1. Origins, structure, and basic meaning
- Structure: Repeat the same state in a
たらcondition and aたでform to show that the state brings its own circumstances or difficulties. - Basic usage:
暇だったら暇だったで、何をすればよいか迷う。means that having free time brings its own problem of not knowing what to do.
2. Common pitfalls and similar expressions
- Repeating the same state
便利だったら便利だったでaccepts convenience as the condition and then discusses concerns arising from it. It differs from listing separate, unrelated conditions.
- Adjective inflection and time
忙しいbecomes忙しかったら忙しかったで, and暇だbecomes暇だったら暇だったで. Theたforms in this condition do not alone establish that the situation is in the past.

